DC vs. Marvel
(A RIAfunk.com Forums Poll)
Which is the better comic book company?
DC : 50% [ 4 ]
Marvel : 50% [ 4 ]
Total Votes : 8
Ok... so choose which is the better comic book company. Reasons can range from better characters, to better subject matter, to better logo, etc. Just make sure to give your reasons as to why you chose that one.
Yes, I am aware that there are other companies, and maybe one you think is better than these two, but this poll isn't about them. It's about MARVEL and DC. So stop crying, DJ HADOKEN
Top Comments
DJ Hadoken Exlamparaaghis comments:
I don't know enough about comics to have any complaints. But I love Spider-Man so I chose Marvel.
BlindPanzer comments:
Someone voted for Marvel that didn't comment....
The Funk Mistress comments:
Marvel wins for me, but barely and I'll explain why. First of all, I'm not a comic expert, so I can only go on what I've seen and I'll be the first to say it's not a very educated opinion, I'm sure. But to me, Marvel tends to have more interesting characters with more depth and appeal. Even the villains are interesting and even if you dislike them, you “love to hate them.” A great deal of them you can even sympathize with because of their faults - often very realistic faults that anyone could have, but magnified to a fantastic level to fit the fantastic plots.
And I guess I also look at things from a writer's standpoint. Comics are the same as books, just illustrated, and I think a lot of the time Marvel pulls that off better than DC.
However, Vertigo is my favorite line, which is where the “Marvel vs. DC” argument hits a snag for me: DC owns Vertigo. However, because DC chooses to run Vertigo separately in order to market various demographics more effectively, I consider the two as separate entities.
For the argument, I take only what is published under the name Marvel and only what is published under the name DC. If we were including their imprints as well, then I would change my vote to DC in a second (and in fact, I tried but I don't know how to change votes).
Vertigo is what made me want to be a graphic novelist (damn my inability to draw and my desire to not work with an illustrator) and it reaffirmed my desire to be a writer. As far as I'm concerned, it is the most stunning proof of comics as art. But again, we're only including DC and Marvel, so DC lost (barely) on a technicality.
The Funk Mistress responds:
BlindPanzer wrote:
Someone voted for Marvel that didn't comment....
Someone voted for Marvel that didn't comment....
Someone was busy writing their response. And trying to figure out how to change her vote while grappling with whether or not to allow her love of Vertigo to affect her opinion.
<3 <3 I was torn, sorry I took so long <3 <3
BlindPanzer responds back:
The answer was supposed to take in consideration imprints as well. Sorry for the ambiguity.
The Funk Mistress comments:
Lol. Yeah, after I re-read the original post I saw it said “company” which I figured included imprints. That's why I took so long to post, I was trying to see if I could change my vote (DJ Hadoken, if you know how to do that, let me know).
For me, DC wins on Vertigo alone.
SilliNessSunshine comments:
Marvel, because I love Spidey!
RockRanger comments:
DC, cause I love the Dark Knight.
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I already told you my answer, BlindPanzer. Why do you people keep making polls I refuse to vote on? Your loss. After all, I am about 15-25% of the voting population.
BlindPanzer comments:
Even without Vertigo, I still think I'd pick DC. I'll frame this around the issue of the depth of characters.
In my opinion, DC does have characters with more depth, purely because the characters are in simpler environments. You see, the way I see it, Marvel spends more time fleshing out the situations and environment of its characters (Hulk, X-Men, Spidey come to mind) and less on the actual characters. The sort of logic that assumes the character will be understood by its interaction with the world. This by no means is a bad way to do it, just not my preferred style of writing.
The DC characters, seem to have more depth purely because there is no long-term story arc dictated by the environment. Gotham will always be corrupt, the world will always need superheroes, etc. The moral thrust becomes a major focus point for each character.
The social class mentality of the Green Arrow, absolutism and Batman, and the relativism of Superman. Batman wants to rid the city of the evil that took his parents away, he also does not kill (no “ifs” or “buts” about it). Superman's moral judgement system is grounded in the values instilled during his childhood: life, liberty, and the American way.
Each character also has a different notion of the worth of institutions. Batman believes in Gotham City but he does not trust the people. In fact, some comics have explored the aristocratic sense that Batman wants to implement. Superman has hope in the people, and thus believes that what he is fighting for is human autonomy, free from evils that would destroy the democratic process.
For Batman, institutions should be there to moderate the people, while for Superman, the institutions are just an extension of the people, promoting the values they hold dear.
I read somewhere that Marvel presents the psychological while DC the philosophical. I think this applies because Marvel characters are grounded in subjectivism, while DC are an objective ideal (however different they may be). Of course, any statement like that HAS to be a generalization but I find it to be true more often than not.
The Funk Mistress responds:
I never really thought of it like that and I think you have a valid point.
I read somewhere that Marvel presents the psychological while DC the philosophical. I think this applies because Marvel characters are grounded in subjectivism, while DC are an objective ideal (however different they may be). Of course, any statement like that HAS to be a generalization but I find it to be true more often than not.
The Funk Mistress responds:
I never really thought of it like that and I think you have a valid point.
One thing that really grabbed my attention, though, was when you said that DC presents the philosophical, while Marvel presents the psychological.
I tend to not like philosophy AS much (though I do find it very interesting) because I think a lot of philosophers go overboard sometimes and abuse the fact that you really can't prove anything right or wrong (not that psychology hasn't had its share of lofty ideas and crazy schemes).
Maybe that's why when I first read the question I jumped on the Marvel bandwagon.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) comments:
It smells like mylar bags and B.O. in here.
BlindPanzer responds back:
Philosophy is nothing more than the science of definitions.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) comments:
It smells like mylar bags and B.O. in here.
BlindPanzer responds back:
Philosophy is nothing more than the science of definitions.
Depending on how one defines the concepts, then the world view will be different. I'm using the word science as knowledge (originally used by the Greeks: scientia). I think the problem with philosophy is that it gets too bogged down in epistemology (the “how do we know that we know” branch of philosophy 
).
).We end up getting the idea of Peter Griffin in the dinner table asking “why?” When we should think of it as a questioning of the established... a rigorous knowledge with solid foundations.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) comments:
Oh man. Now it smells like feta cheese and goats.
BlindPanzer responds:
You should lay off the cotton candy, DJ Benny. Just stick to what you do best, lamesters.
The Funk Mistress comments:
Yeah, that's basically what I was trying to say, I just didn't know how to explain it.
Sort of off topic but sort of not: I think I like psychology better than philosophy because it's a bit more ... hmm ... interactive maybe?
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) comments:
Oh man. Now it smells like feta cheese and goats.
BlindPanzer responds:
You should lay off the cotton candy, DJ Benny. Just stick to what you do best, lamesters.
The Funk Mistress comments:
BlindPanzer wrote:
I think the problem with philosophy is that it gets too bogged down in epistemology (the “how do we know that we know” branch of philosophy).
I think the problem with philosophy is that it gets too bogged down in epistemology (the “how do we know that we know” branch of philosophy
).Yeah, that's basically what I was trying to say, I just didn't know how to explain it.
Sort of off topic but sort of not: I think I like psychology better than philosophy because it's a bit more ... hmm ... interactive maybe?
Again, I'm not really sure how to explain it, but psychology is a little more tangible than philosophy. I think I probably just had too many bad encounters with philosophy dudes who tried to say everything is right just because, “well you can't prove me wrong because no knowledge is certain knowledge; you can only know you exist.” And then they pull the Descartes, “I THINK THEREFORE I AM” card.
You still get lamesters in psychology, but they have less crap that they can use to say, “I'm right you're wrong shut up.”
The Funk Mistress comments again:
Write Amazon reviews? Not make songs called “Aural Dirty Deeds” for The Funk Mistress? Cause those are things he excels at.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) responds:
Don't insult me. What I do is done in a completely clear and sound state of mind.
Krismalaclese comments:
Did someone mention feta cheese?
Because I'm Krismalaclese.
And I'm here to tell you that Democracy is out.
The Yartitovo is in.
PEACE
The Funk Mistress responds:
Did you vote in the poll Krismalaclese? You should. It's not a democratic vote, just a vote about comics. No one is electing Marvel president or anything.
RockRanger comments:
I love how easily the discussion spirals out of topic.
ON that note, I don't support feta cheese. It knows why, I don't have to repeat it.
RockRanger comments again:
All I know is that if I saw a Batman comic and a Spider-Man comic side by side, I'd pick Batman.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) comments:
Personally, I'm a fan of any comic that comes with my Little Debbie snack cakes.
BlindPanzer comments:
The Batman TV show (the Adam West one) rocks too, but for different reasons than the comic.
Zath comments:
Dark Horse.
BlindPanzer responds:
Yes, we all want to be the indie comic book fan. Unfortunately this is a Marvel vs. DC thread.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) comments:
What about Chiefline Comics? The only comic company owned and operated by Native Americans.
BlindPanzer responds:
I already explained the poll. It's the first post. DC vs. Marvel.
No off-topic replies, please.
BlindPanzer comments:
Although I have never read any of the comics, I think Captain America is an intriguing character. That, to me, seems to be the character with the most potential in Marvel's lineup.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) responds:
I agree but Captain America would be nothing without Bucky.
BlindPanzer comments:
I didn't want to start another thread on this, but here is an example of why Golden Age Batman kicks ass.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) comments:
So this whole thread was an excuse for you to post up pictures of Batman.
BlindPanzer responds:
No. The intent of the thread was the title of the thread. I just thought that making another comic book thread would be an overkill of the subject. I decided to use an existing thread and it pertained more to DC comics than cartoons.... therefore, I added the post in this thread. I'm not doing this to pleasurably explode my comics mojo; I thought these kinds of pics are funny, so I wanted to SHARE.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) responds back:
So I guess you'd eat Batman before you'd eat Superman. Or would it be the opposite?
RockRanger comments:
I've always wanted to read a Captain America comic, as I see him as one who would have a great potential to be a great character. But all the collected comics they have in Amazon don't get much praise from the reviewers. At least not the deifications Batman and Superman comic books get.
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BlindPanzer wrote:
You should lay off the cotton candy, DJ Benvenuto. Just stick to what you do best, lamesters.
You should lay off the cotton candy, DJ Benvenuto. Just stick to what you do best, lamesters.
Write Amazon reviews? Not make songs called “Aural Dirty Deeds” for The Funk Mistress? Cause those are things he excels at.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) responds:
Don't insult me. What I do is done in a completely clear and sound state of mind.
Krismalaclese comments:
Did someone mention feta cheese?
Because I'm Krismalaclese.
And I'm here to tell you that Democracy is out.
The Yartitovo is in.
PEACE
The Funk Mistress responds:
Did you vote in the poll Krismalaclese? You should. It's not a democratic vote, just a vote about comics. No one is electing Marvel president or anything.
RockRanger comments:
I love how easily the discussion spirals out of topic.
ON that note, I don't support feta cheese. It knows why, I don't have to repeat it.
RockRanger comments again:
All I know is that if I saw a Batman comic and a Spider-Man comic side by side, I'd pick Batman.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) comments:
Personally, I'm a fan of any comic that comes with my Little Debbie snack cakes.
BlindPanzer comments:
The Batman TV show (the Adam West one) rocks too, but for different reasons than the comic.
Zath comments:
Dark Horse.
BlindPanzer responds:
Yes, we all want to be the indie comic book fan. Unfortunately this is a Marvel vs. DC thread.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) comments:
What about Chiefline Comics? The only comic company owned and operated by Native Americans.
BlindPanzer responds:
I already explained the poll. It's the first post. DC vs. Marvel.
No off-topic replies, please.
BlindPanzer comments:
Although I have never read any of the comics, I think Captain America is an intriguing character. That, to me, seems to be the character with the most potential in Marvel's lineup.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) responds:
I agree but Captain America would be nothing without Bucky.
BlindPanzer comments:
I didn't want to start another thread on this, but here is an example of why Golden Age Batman kicks ass.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) comments:
So this whole thread was an excuse for you to post up pictures of Batman.
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No. The intent of the thread was the title of the thread. I just thought that making another comic book thread would be an overkill of the subject. I decided to use an existing thread and it pertained more to DC comics than cartoons.... therefore, I added the post in this thread. I'm not doing this to pleasurably explode my comics mojo; I thought these kinds of pics are funny, so I wanted to SHARE.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) responds back:
So I guess you'd eat Batman before you'd eat Superman. Or would it be the opposite?
RockRanger comments:
I've always wanted to read a Captain America comic, as I see him as one who would have a great potential to be a great character. But all the collected comics they have in Amazon don't get much praise from the reviewers. At least not the deifications Batman and Superman comic books get.
It might be because of what BlindPanzer said, that Marvel comics seem to focus around the situation of the character, while DC seems to focus more on the character themselves.
RockRanger comments again:
On that note, feel free to recommend any Captain America books that you think are great (I'm looking at you, The Woodsman).
The Funk Mistress comments:
See, The Woodsman, it's not just me. We all know that you're a nerd <3
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) comments:
Captain America isn't his... forte.
DJ Hadoken Exlamparaaghis comments:
Please watch your language unless you want to get banned from the board.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) responds:
I AM THE KING
Zath comments:
Dark Horse... b*tch.
BlindPanzer responds:
Okay.
Since you are so inclined in choosing Dark Horse (I'm assuming over both Marvel and DC) then why don't you explain why?
Zath responds back:
The Goon... period.
Naw, actually, that was probably the only comic I've ever read. I wasn't much of a comic guy when I was little. But I like certain stories that were derived from Marvel and DC comics. But all the comics I remember reading were a Spawn comic, some Bazooka comics, and the funnies... and The Goon, which is an awesome comic, very funny stuff.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) comments:
Bazooka? Bazooka Joe? You should talk about your Bazooka Joe experiences in the other thread.
DJ Hadoken Exlamparaaghis comments:
I saw an animation based on the comic “The Maxx” once.. it was pretty cool.
The Funk Mistress comments:
Have I mentioned yet that Lobo is DC? Lobo is another reason DC wins forever.
There was a student film where the dude playing Lobo was also the dude (Andrew Bryniarski) who played Zangief in the Street Fighter Movie.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) comments:
I think that The Maxx cartoon aired on MTV2. In the 90's.
The Funk Mistress responds:
Yeah it did. I liked it, but it weirded me out and went over my head sometimes.
RockRanger comments again:
On that note, feel free to recommend any Captain America books that you think are great (I'm looking at you, The Woodsman).
The Funk Mistress comments:
See, The Woodsman, it's not just me. We all know that you're a nerd <3
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) comments:
Captain America isn't his... forte.
DJ Hadoken Exlamparaaghis comments:
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) wrote:
Captain America isn't his... forte.
Captain America isn't his... forte.
Please watch your language unless you want to get banned from the board.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) responds:
I AM THE KING
Zath comments:
BlindPanzer wrote:
I already explained the poll. It's the first post. DC vs. Marvel.
No off-topic replies, please.
I already explained the poll. It's the first post. DC vs. Marvel.
No off-topic replies, please.
Dark Horse... b*tch.
BlindPanzer responds:
Okay.
Since you are so inclined in choosing Dark Horse (I'm assuming over both Marvel and DC) then why don't you explain why?
Zath responds back:
BlindPanzer wrote:
Okay.
Since you are so inclined in choosing Darkhorse (I'm assuming over both Marvel and DC) then why don't you explain why?
Okay.
Since you are so inclined in choosing Darkhorse (I'm assuming over both Marvel and DC) then why don't you explain why?
The Goon... period.
Naw, actually, that was probably the only comic I've ever read. I wasn't much of a comic guy when I was little. But I like certain stories that were derived from Marvel and DC comics. But all the comics I remember reading were a Spawn comic, some Bazooka comics, and the funnies... and The Goon, which is an awesome comic, very funny stuff.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) comments:
Bazooka? Bazooka Joe? You should talk about your Bazooka Joe experiences in the other thread.
DJ Hadoken Exlamparaaghis comments:
I saw an animation based on the comic “The Maxx” once.. it was pretty cool.
The Funk Mistress comments:
Have I mentioned yet that Lobo is DC? Lobo is another reason DC wins forever.
There was a student film where the dude playing Lobo was also the dude (Andrew Bryniarski) who played Zangief in the Street Fighter Movie.
DJ Benvenuto the Raccoon II (With the Funny Hat) comments:
I think that The Maxx cartoon aired on MTV2. In the 90's.
The Funk Mistress responds:
Yeah it did. I liked it, but it weirded me out and went over my head sometimes.
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